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Yakubian Ape's avatar

Mel Brooks said it best - "You can't have fun with anything you don't love or admire or respect." I brought that up in a piece I did on the entire concept of artistic "deconstruction". It's really a fascinating topic to me. They can be done well, but I've never seen one that wasn't helmed by a creative who, if they didn't genuinely love the source genre, at least understood the appeal and why it was successful and met the genre on its own terms instead of belittling it (and the fans)... but I think I've only ever seen it be done well in anime. There's probably something about their cultural cohesion and expectations of courtesy in their social structure that keep even a highfalutin, self-conceited creator from going off the rez and turning the deconstruction du jour into their own personal struggle sessions against the fans like Rian Johnson did.

It's interesting you bring up Rick and Morty as well, as I think it's another great example of creatives antagonizing their audience. The show started off as a genuine spoof of various sci-fi tropes but over time has fluctuated between being a mean-spirited and spiteful repudiation of the fandom around it and just lazy, color-by-numbers trash thrown together to fill out a season to meet contractual obligations. I was never much into the show but a lot of people around me were for years and I soaked up a lot through osmosis, and it seems like, after R&M exploded in popularity and the fans garnered a reputation for being... like that, Dan Harmon and Justin Roiland really did not like that the fans were annoying and now infamously so, but also that they liked the more serious, story-heavy elements of R&M instead of the gross-out humor and cock-and-ball joke aspects of it. Ever since they've seemingly did everything they could to punish the audience for the crime of getting invested in a show that they apparently never wanted to be taken seriously, despite having dozens of episodes that are apparently meant to be taken seriously, but actually, the TRULY big-brained fans should have known that none of it was ever supposed to be taken seriously and you're an idiot if you ever thought it was anything other than the television equivalent of truck stop bathroom graffiti.

It doesn't help that Harmon seems to have been going slowly insane ever since Trump took office and Roiland, by all accounts, just seems to be an all-around conceited dickhead.

Anyways, good work on shifting gears. I look forward to see what else you have coming down the pipeline.

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Monia Ali's avatar

This feel like such a timely piece because of the deep, deep dive into Buffy/Whedon fandom I've been doing for the past few months. Going through the official forums and newsgroups and writer interviews. The amount of interactions between writers and fans and outright lies told by writers is pretty wild to look back on. There are "new" fans who are clearly of this new age (the shippers who attack actors for preferring a different ship, for example) but even back in the day writers were accused of homophobia and racism if the story didn't go where they wanted it to, which blew my mind. I think the only reason Whedon got away with a lot of his antagonism is that he was quite forward with it and explicitly said many times that he wanted characters and the audience to suffer. But also, the climate was different in the sense that there wasn't enough hangers on making meals out of these conflicts, which as you rightly point out, is an entire industry these days.

This "Sincerity, not spite, is what makes stories timeless," may also explain why only certain Whedon properties (and more specifically, only specific seasons) have maintained respectable status.

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